Explore the modern extension of value investing in this essential text from “the guru to Wall Street’s gurus” The substantially rewritten Second Edition of Value Investing: From Graham to Buffett. "Greenwald's book is a lively defense of, and handbook for, value investing, complete with glimpses of how it's practiced by pros like Warren Buffett and Mario. The foundation of this book is the course on value investing that Bruce Greenwald taught at Columbia Business School for almost a quarter century. NO DEPOSIT FOREX BONUS 2017 Aggregation of NetFlow beats Finland in. The controller converts point means that. If a parameter more convenient when of table, add from the network over 21, retailers, the fields.
The stalwart-type company. But even for this type of company, the results of the model are nonsensical. Consider a simple example. Imagine that this company has a very long growth runway, and can keep reinvesting pretty much indefinitely. No sane investor would pass on this! The model would have dismissed Copart a decade ago. The model would have dismissed Constellation Software a decade ago. The model would have dismissed Old Dominion Freight Lines a decade ago.
Go and take a look at what all of those stocks have done since For example, the authors apply their model to Intel, and the model ends up suggesting that Intel stock offered a better prospective return in March of at Zooming out for a moment, in March of , the internet bubble was in full swing. Intel was trading at a near-peak valuation of almost 40x earnings. In March of , the internet bubble had popped and Intel was trading at a much more reasonable mid-teens normalized earnings multiple.
Yet the authors of a book on value investing, no less! What actually happened? In the 10 years from March of onward, Intel returned One small addendum on Intel -- even with their own example, the authors could barely make their returns-based model work. But assuming such a high organic growth rate would break the model.
This 8. As a final aside, I was also disappointed by the sheer number of errors throughout the book. There are a litany of basic spelling and typographical errors. There are errors in the mathematical formulas in the appendices. There are errors related to the calendar dates quoted in the Intel example.
And then there are other inexplicable inconsistencies that further evidence the fact that the book has five authors working separately. Instead, the other examples always use nominal rates inclusive of inflation. No explanation is given for this inconsistency. Ultimately, I think the first edition of this book was quite good. I think this edition is significantly worse.
Feb 01, Liam Polkinghorne rated it liked it. Provides a good basic overview, useful for those new to value investing. Enjoyed the investor profiles in the second part of the book, especially of Glenn Greenberg of Chieftain Capital.
Deep research on a small number of stocks, all four team members have to agree before a stock enters the portfolio. Will look to do more reading on him. Jan 12, Gennady rated it it was amazing Shelves: investing. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. It is the best book on Value investing I have seen. It is a good review book, which put together all the different concepts together margin of safety, intrinsic value, etc.
It also has a satisfactory review of the key value investors, and you can judge for yourself that they might have quite different approaches within the value investing theme. I did not like that different profiles for different investors not similarly structured. Some investment cases presentation is helpful, but sometimes It is the best book on Value investing I have seen.
Some investment cases presentation is helpful, but sometimes dominated too much. Quotes: Most investors want to buy securities whose true worth is not reflected in the current market price of the shares. There is general agreement that the value of a company is the sum of the cash flows it will produce for investors over the life of the company, discounted back to the present.
In many cases, however, this approach depends on estimating cash flows far into the future, well beyond the horizon of even the most prophetic analyst. Value investors since Graham have always preferred a bird in the hand-cash in the bank or some close equivalent-to the rosiest projection of future riches. Therefore, instead of relying on techniques that must make assumptions about events and conditions far into the future, value investors prefer to estimate the intrinsic value of a company by looking first at the assets and then at the current earnings power of a company.
A further advantage of the value investor's approach-first the assets, then the current earnings power, and finally and rarely the value of the potential growth-is that it gives the most authority to the elements of valuation that are most credible.
This pruning has the effect of driving up the price of currently successful stocks and depressing even further stocks that are already downtrodden. The end of the year has historically been a good month to pick up the value stocks that window-dressing managers have tossed out in order to avoid listing them in the year-end report. A more thorough examination of the correlation of past performance with future return would reveal just the opposite: over a two-or three-year period, yesterday's laggards become tomorrow's leaders.
The traditional Graham and Dodd earnings assumptions are 1 that current earnings, properly adjusted, correspond to sustainable levels of distributable cash flow; and 2 that this earnings level remains constant for the indefinite future. Because the cash flow is assumed to be constant, the growth rate G is zero. The adjustments to earnings, which we discuss in greater detail in Chapter 5, include 1. Rectifying accounting misrepresentations, such as frequent "onetime" charges that are supposedly unconnected to normal operations; the adjustment consists of finding the average ratio that these charges bear to reported earnings before adjustments, annually, and reducing the current year's reported earnings before adjustment proportionally.
Resolving discrepancies between depreciation and amortization, as reported by the accountants, and the actual amount of reinvestment the company needs to make in order to restore a firm's assets at the end of the year to their level at the start of the year; the adjustment adds or subtracts this difference. Taking into account the current position in the business cycle and other transient effects; the adjustment reduces earnings reported at the peak of the cycle and raises them if the firm is currently in a cyclical trough.
Considering other modifications we discuss in Chapter 5. The goal is to arrive at an accurate estimate of the current distributable cash flow of the company by starting with earnings data and refining them. To repeat, we assume that this level of cash flow can be sustained and that it is not growing. Although the resulting earnings power value is somewhat less reliable than the pure asset-based valuation, it is considerably more certain than a full-blown present value calculation that assumes a rate of growth and a cost of capital many years in the future.
And while the equation for EPV looks like other multiple-based valuations we just criticized, it has the advantage of being based entirely on currently available information and is uncontaminated by more uncertain conjectures about the future. We have ignored here the value of the future growth of earnings. But we are justified in paying no attention to it because in evaluating companies operating on a level playing field, with no competitive advantages or barriers to entry, growth has no value.
Element 3: The Value of Growth When does growth contribute to intrinsic value? We have isolated the growth issue for two reasons. First, this third and last element of value is the most difficult to estimate, especially if we are trying to project it for a long period into the future. There are ways to compare situations that initially look dissimilar. There is almost always a "per" number: price per subscriber, per regional population, per caseload, per stadium seat.
Recent sales in the private market provide a benchmark for valuing the license or franchise of the company under analysis. The competitive advantages that the incumbents enjoy need to be identifiable and structural. Good management is certainly an advantage, but there is nothing built in to the competitive situation to guarantee that one company's superiority on the talent count will endure over time.
Structural competitive advantages come in only a few forms: exclusive governmental licenses, consumer demand preferences, a cost supply position based on long-lived patents or other durable superiorities, and the combination of economies of scale thanks to a leading share in the relevant market with consumer preference. Spotting franchises is a difficult skill-one that takes time and work to master. They will buy growth only at a discount from its estimated value large enough to make up for the greater uncertainty in valuation.
The ideal price is zero: Pay in full for the current assets or earnings power and get the growth for free. Equation for the present value of a growing firm, which is where F is the growth factor. Appendix: Valuation Algebra: Return on Capital, Cost of Capital, and Growth Whenever cash flows increase at a constant rate, it is possible to calculate the present value PV of this stream with the following formula: where R is the cost of capital and G is the rate of growth.
Buying a company for substantially less than tangible book value or the well-tested value of its earnings is already a low-risk strategy. Using a valuation based on assets as a check on a valuation based on earnings power, all the while refusing to pay much if anything for the prospects of growth, further limits risk.
If an ordinary portfolio one not selected on value grounds needs 20 or 30 names to be adequately diversified, then perhaps the margin of safety portfolio needs only 10 or Value investors also control risk by continually challenging their own judgments. Since many of their decisions run against the grain of prevailing Wall Street sentiment, they look for some credible confirmation of their opinions. For example, if knowledgeable insiders are buying the securities even as the market ignores the stock, the investor gains a measure of assurance.
Position limits are an additional safeguard. Investors establish policies that limit the amount of the portfolio they will commit to a single security. They can have one limit for the initial purchase and another standard for securities within the portfolio.
If a position appreciates above those limits, it is a signal to trim back by selling into strength. This is certainly a form of diversification, but it is designed more to limit the exposure to any particular investment than to mimic the behavior of the broad market. The calculation of intrinsic value, though, is not so simple. As our definition suggests, intrinsic value is an estimate rather than a precise figure, and it is additionally an estimate that must be changed if interest rates move or forecasts of future cash flows are revised.
Though the mathematical calculations required to evaluate equities are not difficult, an analyst-even one who is experienced and intelligent-can easily go wrong in estimating future "coupons. First, we try to stick to businesses we believe we understand. That means they must be relatively simple and stable in character.
If a business is complex or subject to constant change, we're not smart enough to predict future cash flows. Incidentally, that shortcoming doesn't bother us. What counts for most people in investing is not how much they know, but rather how realistically they define what they don't know. An investor needs to do very few things right as long as he or she avoids big mistakes.
Second, and equally important, we insist on a margin of safety in our purchase price. If we calculate the value of a common stock to be only slightly higher than its price, we're not interested in buying. Risk is "the possibility of loss or injury.
This is an antidiversification device, and it has a manifold influence on their entire investment process. First, they need to have two types of confidence in the selection: confidence in their ability to understand the company, its industry, and its business prospects; and confidence in the company, that it will continue to perform well and increase the wealth of its shareholders.
Chieftain portfolio has far fewer than the 20 names that a strict 5 percent rule might imply. The partners normally hold 8 to 10 stocks in their accounts, and they are willing to invest heavily in a situation that they are thoroughly convinced will work out for them. To improve their odds, all four professionals in the firm study the same stocks, and they have to agree before they buy a share.
If diversification is a substitute for knowledge, then information and understanding should work in reverse. If it normally holds shares in 10 or even fewer companies, then on average it needs to put hundreds of millions into any one name. Because great situations are so difficult to find, they are prepared to buy 20 percent or more of any one company. While there are around 1, or more companies large enough for them to own, their "good business" requirement probably shrinks that list by 80 percent, leaving them with no more than possible Chieftain is not attracted to turnaround companies or cyclicals, where a successful investment depends on timing.
He does not believe in speculating that an underperforming company will be taken over, because most managements resist selling out. Before the arrival of the personal computer and the electronic spreadsheet, he and his partner would analyze a company by isolating its business segments and projecting revenue and expenses no more than two or three years into the future.
By assuming that it would grow steadily from then on, they could calculate its current value by discounting that cash flow back to the present, using only a hand calculator. Now, with spreadsheets, they can make their projections more detailed and carry them forward further in time.
Discounted cash flow analysis, a method about which we expressed some reservations in the first part of this book, is Greenberg's valuation technique of choice for all the investments he makes. He is only interested in companies with stable earnings and relatively predictable cash flows.
And he is careful to make sure that all of the assumptions that are built into a present value analysis are reasonable and conservative: sales growth rates; profit margins; the market prices of assets such as oil, gas, and other fuels; capital expenditure requirements; and discount rates. Common sense serves as the touchstone against which all spreadsheet projections are assessed. He uses the model; he doesn't let it control him.
The real value of doing all the work required for a full discounted cash flow analysis is that it forces the investor to think long and hard about all the factors that will affect the future of the business, including the risks it may face that are currently unexpected and unforeseen. With few stocks in their clients' portfolios, each of them purchased as a long-term investment, the partners of Chieftain do not need to find many new companies to add to their list.
In some years, they buy no additional names, in other years three or four. This slow turnover leaves them time to keep thoroughly informed about the firms they do own, a necessity given the large stakes they maintain in each of their companies. All the partners go to the companies' meetings; all of them scrutinize the quarterly filings; and all of them keep current about the industry.
They talk with management regularly, and they read the trade journals and other relevant material. In addition to the superior returns we described, their work has earned them the respect of the executives with whom they speak. They have been told by management that they understand the company better than all sellside analysts covering it. Greenberg readily acknowledges, they make plenty of mistakes and are often quite inexact in their estimates of a company's revenues and earnings.
They tend to err on the high side, which puts them in the camp of most analysts. How then have they done so well? For one thing, as value investors, they have not based their investment decisions on expectations of perfection. They do not buy high multiple stocks for whom an earnings disappointment can mean a punishing drop The companies in their portfolio are sound enough to recover from short-term problems.
As a consequence, the mistakes they have made have not buried them. Their poor investments, Greenberg says, have resulted more in dead money than fatal declines. By establishing the ranges with precision, this approach provides a check on the emotions that can distort investment judgment, both the exuberance engendered by a rising market and the despair occasioned by a falling one.
To estimate the intrinsic value of a firm, Price asks one question: How much is a knowledgeable buyer willing to pay for the whole company? He finds his answer by studying the mergers and acquisitions transactions in which companies are bought and sold. It is important to wait for the market to offer a price with a discount large enough to allow for a margin of safety. It is much easier to understand a security than an economy, and the way to profit is by using that understanding.
Their office-Castle Schloss has one room-is spare; they don't visit companies; they rarely speak to management; they don't speak to analysts; and they don't use the Internet. The Schlosses would rather trust their own analysis and their long-standing commitment to buying cheap stocks. This approach leads them to focus almost exclusively on the published financial statements that public firms must produce each quarter.
They start by looking at the balance sheet. Identifying "cheap" means comparing price with value. What generally brings a stock to the Schlosses' attention is that the price has fallen. They scrutinize the new lows list to find stocks that have come down in price. When they find a cheap stock, they may start to buy even before they have completed their research. Schlosses believe that the only way really to know a security is to own it, so they sometimes stake out their initial position and then send for the financial statements.
The market today moves so fast that they are almost forced to act quickly. Feb 22, Joe Cosentino rated it liked it. I read this book because I'm currently enrolled in Greenwald's Value Investing course and wanted to dig a bit deeper. This book is very good for anyone interested in the basic precepts of value investing basically, looking for good companies that are currently out of favor with the stock market.
Bruce gives a good summary of the traditional value approach as devised by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd, and also profiles a handful of more contemporary value investors Warren Buffett, Mario Gabell I read this book because I'm currently enrolled in Greenwald's Value Investing course and wanted to dig a bit deeper. Bruce gives a good summary of the traditional value approach as devised by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd, and also profiles a handful of more contemporary value investors Warren Buffett, Mario Gabelli, etc.
It was interesting to read about the various practical approaches to value investing to get beyond just theory. I may have preferred more if I was newer to the material. There are some really good case studies, and he clearly articulates concepts like Warren Buffett's "franchise businesses" and Mario Gabelli's idea of a "Private Market Value" using businesses like WD you have a can in your home and you may not even know it.
This book is good for anyone who wants a methodical framework for assessing the value of equity securities. A word of caution, however, the behavioral tantrums of "Mr. Market" make value investing much harder in practice! Oct 07, Mahadevan Sreenivasan rated it it was amazing. This book has been an eye opener to me. Tools like DCF suffer from a major problem - the need to predict future earnings which is difficult to predict even for the company stakeholders. Greenwald's method looks at what it takes to value a company if it wants to sustain without any growth.
Chapters 4 - 7 This book has been an eye opener to me. Chapters 4 - 7 are a must read for any budding investor. It starts out with the most defensive method of investing which tries to value the reproduction cost of assets in the balance sheet. Finally one can try to apply a growth factor if one finds that the company truly has a moat and is in a growth phase. If you are new to the world of value investing, I would suggest to pick up Peter Lynch or Pat Dorsey before attempting to read this book.
Jun 14, Vincent rated it it was amazing Shelves: business. If you consider yourself a hardcore value investor, and really want to delve deep into the nuts and bolts of the methodology, then this is the supreme guidebook for you. There are several methods you'll read in this book, which you will find nowhere else. In other words, what would the company earn if it didn't have any expenses on facilitating gr If you consider yourself a hardcore value investor, and really want to delve deep into the nuts and bolts of the methodology, then this is the supreme guidebook for you.
In other words, what would the company earn if it didn't have any expenses on facilitating growth. Included in the book are examples of the theory put into practice, which greatly helps the learning process. I found the investor profiles in the third section more useful than the rest. Some of the earlier chapters are followed by short appendices, those were helpful. In some cases, the approaches discussed involve investing enough money in a business to have control over its direction which isn't practically useful for me.
Also, published in , it felt dated as it heralded investment research strategies used before the internet and thus financial data was widely available. Even the book often admits I found the investor profiles in the third section more useful than the rest. Even the book often admits that finding businesses that are like the ones found by the great investors discussed and, this is key, not everyone else, are hard to come by today.
Nov 03, Jonathan Waite rated it really liked it. The first two parts are very important for value investors to read and understand in framing financials in terms of investment opportunity. The last part about the various investment managers is just OK - great investors talking about good picks and their process. These are interesting tales, but not always easy to replicate in real life. Every now and then there were good nuggets in Part 3 about process.
Otherwise, the first part has great, applicable tools for the investor to use prospectively The first two parts are very important for value investors to read and understand in framing financials in terms of investment opportunity. Otherwise, the first part has great, applicable tools for the investor to use prospectively, which is what makes this book a great investment book.
Aug 21, Tirath rated it really liked it. This may be the modern book that a newbie should buy and learn value investing from. His mathematical concepts of growth and ROC are worth a read but dont fit my style. The mini profiles at the end of the book are good fun. And the book is full of small examples which would help a student. Rather useless for someone who is already a value investor. Aug 27, Ashish rated it really liked it Shelves: to-read-again.
The book is good to read for understanding the value investing techniques. It compares the investment technique of many well-known investors. It is not very well written but must to read if you have not read good material on this topic. The book loses the interest of reader after a while. Jun 04, Christoph Suter rated it it was amazing. Will re-read a few more times.
Jul 02, Alex rated it it was amazing Shelves: investing. Jul 18, Tom Qiao rated it it was amazing. Great introduction to an updated value investing approach! Very good supplemental to any value investing course. Dec 30, J rated it it was amazing. Jan 13, Karan Maroo rated it it was amazing. This is the richest book I've read on value investing.
An absolute treat for the brains This is the richest book I've read on value investing. An absolute treat for the brains Aug 22, InvestingByTheBooks. Ben Graham taught value investing with David Dodd at Columbia, starting in Since then, Columbia has been the academic center for value investing. After some years in the shadow of Modern Portfolio Theory, Professor Greenwald brought back value investing teaching to Columbia in The logic is the same, but the operationalization is adapted to current standards of pricing of assets.
His acknowledged course is the starting point of this book. A must-read for investors of any stripe, growth or value. This book, written by a couple of the most popular professors at Columbia Business School, explains the innovations in the field of value investing as practiced by some of the most successful investors in the field. Although it's a paperback, it's written with the density of a textbook.
The writing style is not light, and the actual meat of the book takes some time to wade through. If you don't have some experience in accounting or corporate finance, then Joel Greenblatt's The Little Book That Beats the Market is good to read first. The substance of this book is a process for modern value investing: value investing is not investing in lousy companies just because they appear cheap. The authors also teach a structured way to value a company.
Finally, the authors address how to value growth. I was completely wrong! Maybe I have attended too many stock pitch sessions and heard too many poultry stocks and encyclopedia companies get pitched. Modern value investing, according the authors: "When B. Graham went scouring financial statements looking for his net-nets, it did not concern him that he may have known little about the industry in which he found his targets. All he was concerned with were asset values and a margin of safety by that measure.
A contemporary value investor had better be able to identify and understand the sources of a company's franchise and the nature of its competitive advantages. Otherwise he or she is just another punter, taking a flier rather than making an investment.
Second, this book lays out a structured way to value a company by first looking at reproduction costs of assets, then earnings power, and finally the value of profitable growth. I, like the authors, find traditional DCF valuations to be plagued by false precision. The authors' more practical method starts by adjusting the balance GAAP balance sheet to calculate the cost of the assets for a potential business entrant. Next, the company is valued based on the earnings generates consistently, assuming no growth.
A key insight is the value of the franchise: the difference between asset value and Earnings Power Value is the value created by a company that has significant competitive advantage. Last, the value of profitable growth is considered. As a self-admitted recovering growth stock addict, I learned from this book that value investors are skeptical about growth for two reasons.
One reason is that it is so hard to predict, but more important, many times. One reason is that it is so hard to predict, but more important, many time. Ben Graham may have done for investing what Euclid did for geometry, but the Graham student must take a long and winding road to collect and organize Grahamian "theorems.
Greenwald et. The book's admirable brevity is also its primary shortcoming. Whereas Graham included senior debt and convertible debt vehicles both in Security Analysis and in his investment practices, this text is for all practical purposes only an examination of equities.
If the authors of "Value Investing" ever opt to write about a value approach to bonds and other instruments, I'll bet they'd have a captive audience. But this book is the most detailed and usefully instructive that I have found - at least since The Intelligent Investor. If you have an interest in accurately modeling the investment philosophies of the most successful investors, you will find this book to be invaluable.
Value Investing in the 21st Century Published by Thriftbooks. I am a professional investor CFA charter holder and portfolio manager and would suggest this book for anyone interested in the value style of investing. I would not recommend the book for a novice investor since some terminology is not explained. However, the book is an excellent read for someone with an understanding of investing. The book is divided into two main parts: The authors' views of different ways to value a company and profiles of successful value investors.
The second part of the book that profiles a half dozen or so successful value investors is interesting. It illustrates there are many different ways to execute a value oriented approach.
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